Looked everywhere for audio from the Howard Dean Ralph Nader debate today, Dean's site, Ralph's site, C-Span (which had it but didn't work), a search on feedster, and finally found it on NPR of all places (yeah now I know they sponsored it).

I have the utmost respect for both men and IMHO neither came out battered and bruised like many in the blogsphere seem to be saying. Personally I agree 100% with what Nader says, I just don't believe that kind of change can be brought in at the presidential level, that is with the current system that is in place. I believe radical change works best at the local level and works it's way up the political ladder. The fact that the Green Party snubbed Nader this year and nominated David Cobb speaks volumes about Nader's candidacy this year. Why he feels the need to break out on his own instead of working for real change within in a growing progressive movement like the Green Party is beyond me, yet at the same time I really hope this doesn't tarnish Nader's incredible career. Dean did his job and got his point across clearly and diplomatically saying,

"I believe that in the end the people that I care about are served better with a John Kerry presidency than they are with a George Bush presidency."

"We can not let the perfect become the enemy of the good. The stakes are too high."

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